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Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Do I have my husband's permission to write this blog?

 "The emotional, sexual, and psychological stereotyping of females begins when the doctor says, "It's a girl."" ~ Shirley Chisholm

As most of you know, our house has termites.  They haven't done any damage yet, but we have to get a treatment done to make sure they don't eat the floor out from underneath us.  We had three different estimates done and settled on an exterminator.  Keith called on Monday to make an appointment and they said they'd call back.  Later in the day, they called the house and said that Monday morning was open for them.  I said it was good for me.  Then they asked, "Is this okay with your husband? We want to make sure it's convenient for him."  Umm, well, since he's going to be at work and I'm going to be the one at home, you don't have to worry about arranging the time with his schedule.  "Are you sure it's okay with your husband?"  Yes, it's okay with my husband.  "Do you want to call and ask him?"  What?  No.  It's fine.  Monday morning is fine.  "Alright. We're scheduling you for Monday morning.  Please let your husband know."

To top it off, it was a woman that had called me.

I do own this house, too.  It's not only my husband's house.  I'm not one of his employees or a decoration.  I'll be writing out the check and giving it to the exterminator.  Oooh, does my husband know I wrote a check?  Geez.

"When two people marry they become in the eyes of the law one person, and that one person is the husband."  ~ Shana Alexander

I can't say that I've never experienced sexism before, but I've never experienced the sort of sexism I have since I've been married.  People expect that I must defer to my husband for everything.  Even people that I've known all my life and have treated me like a strong woman now sometimes treat me like I'm second to my husband.  How does having a ring on my finger and signing a piece of paper suddenly make me less of a person?  I didn't get the same treatment when I wasn't married and living with Keith.  I've been with him for several years.  Why does marriage suddenly make it all different?

Things people have actually said to me:

"Now that you're married, you'll be wanting to have kids soon."  I get this one a lot from people.  From strangers and from people that have known me all my life.  It doesn't matter if I didn't want to have them before, having a ring on my finger means I want children.  It's like a trigger button to my maternal instinct, I suppose.

"Now that you're married, you'll want to be cooking more."  Really?  The kitchen fears me!

"Now that you're married, you won't want to be going out with your friends much any more."  Why?  I don't understand why some people would believe such a thing.  Married women aren't allowed to have friends?

"Now that you're married, you'll have to work extra hard to keep your relationship fresh."  I don't get how working to keep your relationship healthy is any different when you're married or not.

"Now that you're married, you'll be having far less sex."  Not if I have anything to do with it!

My husband has not treated me any differently since we were married.  Our relationship is not something new.  Why is it for other people?  I could go on some psychological, sociological or feminist rant about it and list all sorts of textbook reasons, but I still will never truly understand why marriage makes such a difference.

The fact that I'm married should not cause people to treat me in a demeaning manner.  The fact I'm a woman should not cause people to treat me lesser than a man.  I'm a human being in love.  It's simple and beautiful.  Why make it something complicated and dreadful?

(I just like this quote!)
"There are very few jobs that actually require a penis or vagina.  All other jobs should be open to everybody."  ~ Florynce Kennedy
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*Sigh* I totally and completely understand you. There is nothing that makes me angry faster than sexism, unless it's racism, or maybe ageism.

I have a lot of issues with marriage--from the traditional ceremony to the implications thrown on my identity after the deed is done.

I deal with it as best I can. I plan to present myself as an individual first, and a wife second or third or fourth (as circumstances require). It's not that I don't want to be married--I just don't want to been seen as submissive or secondary.

I think I would have severely tongue-lashed that exterminator lady, though. Gah!
Posted 7/8/2009 1:39 PM by Meg (site) - reply

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I think you were much nicer to her then I would've been..
Posted 7/8/2009 1:44 PM by buckeyegirl31 Xanga True Member - reply

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I would of let the southern part of my attitude come and out and put her in her place...Stupid People!!
Posted 7/8/2009 2:38 PM by Erin_Noelle_20 Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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that's interesting... how did she even know u're married?! i got the bathroom fan fixed and nobody asked me about my husband...
and there are girl-friends who think i'm attached at the hip to my husband, which i thought was quite weird! yes i'm hanging out with them and they wonder where jesse is and why isn't he here (when to my understanding it was a GIRLS night out thing!) people are strange!
Posted 7/8/2009 2:52 PM by chibijoyce - reply

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I get the same kind of treatment from contractors up here, whenever we're trying to get something done to/for the house. It never happened until we had the house . . . Meanwhile, I'm the one who is usually dealing with all this stuff because I'm the one who is home. So it gets very irritating. (Especially when they insist that both of us have to be home when they come by to do an estimate--can't trust the "little lady" to get her facts straight, I'm sure!)
Posted 7/8/2009 7:42 PM by mpepper - reply

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Loved this. It just cracked me up. 


I can see how these might be a little irritating. I could just see your face answering these.


Now go make me a sammich woman!

Posted 7/9/2009 9:41 AM by vanedave Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Now I'll be ageist and ask how old that woman was you talked to! Luverly post. Oh and that last quote is so delicious, it's stealable.
Posted 7/9/2009 9:47 AM by impossibleangles - reply

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You leading point is very valid. However, concerning the examples that follow, men are told  many of these same things when they get married.

And studies show married folks have way, way more sex than single people. Only, with far less variety of partners, one supposes.

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Wow, I bet that does get annoying, and I'm sure millions of other married women have to put up with those same ignorant statements. I must applaud you for being so rational about it and not attacking the people who do say those things (although, that would be pretty funny).
Posted 7/9/2009 10:07 AM by wherethefishlives - reply

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*"Now that you're married, you'll be having far less sex."*

Well that's dumb! Since I'm kind of waiting for sex until after I'm married that comment is just silly! :P
Posted 7/9/2009 10:07 AM by Charity_the_So_Called_Artist Xanga True Member - reply

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I think men get told a lot of the same things after marriage - having seen it said to men. Not all of it's sexism. The again, I would have waited with mustard gas to take care of those exterminators.
Posted 7/9/2009 10:19 AM by JadedJanissary Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Love the last quote!!
Posted 7/9/2009 10:28 AM by Krissy_Cole Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Oh its extremely annoying. Every time someone says something sexist I give them five minutes of my time telling them just how stupid they're being. Needless to say it doesn't happen so frequently anymore. :]
Posted 7/9/2009 10:44 AM by BunnyParfait - reply

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It doesn't get any better after you've been married longer. I had the exact same run-in with TruGreen a few years ago. I was in my forties, had been married for twenty years and they told me to get my husband's permission to cancel their service. It's easy for people to say how they would have reacted to such a thing, but when someone actually says it to you it's a shock to hear it and you go speechless for a moment, thinking you must have misheard. (Luckily, it only lasted a moment, then I was able to verbally rip the guy a new one.)
Posted 7/9/2009 10:47 AM by saintvi Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Just an observation - as a person who's owned a business before,


It was your husband that called first. He was the one that had made the request. While YOU know it's your husband, they don't. There are liability issues involved if someone claims to be the wife of a potential customer but really isn't, and sets up service. I actually had a problem with this. I had an auto detail shop in Honolulu when I was younger, and one day a guy comes in for a quote on his car. I tell him what my prices are, and he says he'll think about it. Next day, the same car shows up, with "his wife." She says her husband wants it detailed like we'd talked about. So she drops it off, and I do the work. Later that day, the man who originally talked to me comes back, fuming mad. Turns out he decided he wanted the car to go somewhere else, apparently he'd found a cut rate shop down the road and wanted to save the money. Long story short, I still got paid my money, but not after a long, and unnecessary verbal confrontation with the husband and the wife who I called on the phone. It was a big hassle, and completely unnecessary.


Perhaps sometimes the benefit of the doubt? Not everyone is out to get you because you are female. Hard to believe, I know.


and as for all the "now that you're married" comments... grow up. Those are things that the majority of couples go through. We can all tell jokes about how we didn't want to, and never planned to, have kids until we got married. We can all tell jokes about how once we got married we learned to cut the grass like our dad, or cook like our mom. Why do you suppose you never hear a man complain about sexism when after he gets married someone suggests the best brand of mower they've found, or where to find the best set of Allen wrenches?


As long as you make yourself the victim, you will continue to be the victim.

Posted 7/9/2009 11:35 AM by James3_1 Xanga True Member - reply

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Comments like the one above this are why I am reluctant to rec sometimes.

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You were a lot nicer to that woman that I would have been!
Posted 7/9/2009 1:22 PM by josiebunny Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Things like that really irritate me. I grew up in a sexist family, so I was irritated quiet often, still am.
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I think it happens on both sides. When you get married, you give up a little bit of yourself. Men get plenty of those little talks too. We get plenty of "Are you sure you don't want to ask your wife first...?" comments.


They are a bit silly though, because all of those changes may normally happen, but they don't happen immediately. They sort of gradually occur over the first few years. But I guess people who have been married for a while forget that.

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I understand what you are saying.
Posted 7/9/2009 2:42 PM by amygwen - reply

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I wonder if it's the nature of the game. I'm not married so of course I don't know, but people having seen that behavior in the past have them expecting that behavior in the present. They see other women deferring and they expect you to do it as well... I should hope it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm well aware of the nature of said game. LOVED the quotes btw.
Posted 7/9/2009 2:57 PM by ccarothers Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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@impossibleangles - 

The lady was an older woman. Or at least that's what it sounded with the tone of her voice.
Posted 7/9/2009 3:02 PM by Kalligenia Xanga True Member - reply

I didn't want to ask the caller's age, because I thought that would be ageist, too. I don't care really how old she was--it would be wrong for her to be presumptuous at any age.

Men might be asked about mowers and power tools more when they get married, but women are faced with sexism all the time. Our society is very patriarchal and women are still struggling in inequality everyday. Just check the stats. Things might be a bit better than they were in the 1920s, but that was because of hard work and women who wouldn't take crap--like the attitude of that lady on the phone.
Posted 7/9/2009 3:09 PM by Meg (site) - reply

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For those who mentioned it, Keith did make the call first and told them to call me. So they did know they were getting his wife and that I would be the one here at the house while they're doing the treatment.

I agree that men are told many of the same things as women when they get married. Though from my experience, and that of my friends, it seems as though women take the brunt of it. My husband and his male friends do complain, too. The lot of us have sessions where we complain together, have a laugh, and then move on.
Posted 7/9/2009 3:11 PM by Kalligenia Xanga True Member - reply

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Our society has long way to go to become anywhere near nice let alone perfect. It is sad that woman are looked down upon over being married though
Posted 7/9/2009 8:14 PM by suposablymizz_nicegirl - reply

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